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African a écrit :et meme des 4x4 !!
y'a tjrs eu des 4WD et y'en aura tjrs
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T'inqui?te pas Remoul, je ne pense pas que Yamauchi soit capable de faire ?a comme un "jacky" ! Mais souvient toi de GT1 ou l'on pouvait faire des modifs de course, ? mon avis, ?a doit y ressembler. :wink:
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sinon pour la date de sortie c'est une bonne nouvelle compar?e a 1 an plus tard..
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big_frank666 a écrit :
African a écrit :et meme des 4x4 !!
y'a tjrs eu des 4WD et y'en aura tjrs
African voulait surement parler des 4 roues motrices type range rover ou autres. En tous cas , on en voit effectivement dans les tests.
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Porlus a écrit :Sinon la nouvelle date de sortie de GT4 serait le 7 janvier 2004 .
:shock: Mmm sa me semble un bonne date :roll: ...le lendemain de mon annifImage
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Ouais je voulais bien parler de range rover par exemple !!

sinon la partie tuning devrait etre comme ds GT2 !!
Cad que lorsque tu modifie le poids du vehicule, la derniere modif transforme la voiture en Voiture de course !!
un new beetle qui une fois transformer ressemble a la new bettle race car !!

au lieu d'avoir 2 voitures distinte c la meme !!
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Je reste tout de m?me septique quant ? ces rumeurs. A trop vouloir en faire, on se casse la gue***.
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Porlus a écrit :Sinon la nouvelle date de sortie de GT4 serait le 7 janvier 2004 , date donn?e par de tr?s nombreux vendeurs outre atlantique.
Pile poil pour mon anniversaire!!! :applaudit:
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le 7 janvier 2004 aux USAok !! mais en france ?
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Message par shtefffph14 »

Franchement cette date j'y crois pas, pourquoi y sortiraient un GT4 "Preview" en D?cembre si le jeu sort en Janvier ? En plus de nombreux sites laissent entendre Et? 2004, donc...
Mais sinc?rement je demande qu'? me tromper...
P.S : micromania annonce 01/01/2003, mais l? aussi je suis sceptique...
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Info Gamekult sur GT4 Prologue : http://www.gamekult.com/tout/actus/arti ... 28653.html
En bref, sortie le 4 d?cembre, env. 23 Euros, 1 seul circuit, 3 modes : permis, course unique, contre-la-montre.

http://hh141.hiphip.com/templates/frmTe ... olderID=97
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c trop la carotte ?a !!!

GT prologue a 23Euros !!

alors que tout simplement une demo !!!

et une demo sa doit etre gratuit !!

j'appelle au boycott de ce "prologue"

sauf pour ceux qui veulent le volant avec !!
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De toute fa?on faudrait ?tre s?r qu'y sorte en France, mais c'est vrai que 23 Euros vu le contenu annonc? c'est limite du vol. :cry:
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B????hhhhh fait le mouton incr?dule devant une "offre" pareille.
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Pour ceux qui seraient ? tokyo ? la fin du mois ( on sait jamais :mrgrenn: ok :jesors: )
, il s'y d?roule le 37?me tokyo motor show o? GT4 poss?dera son propre stand.
Ca sera peut ?tre l'occasion d'avoir de nouvelles infos si sony se d?cide ? mettre une nouvelle d?mo: pourquoi pas Hong Kong en action , chose qui n'a pas encore ?tait faite . :roll:
Quand j'y pense , c'est aussi le cas de midfield et laguna seca qui ?taient montr? ? un playstation exp?rience mais que personne n'avait film?. :?
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Ce vendredi ce deroule le salon media planet a bruxelle.
Il a un stand PLAYSTATION ou ils y montrent leurs nouveaute et je suis pratiquement s?r qu'il y aura gt4 en demo jouable j'essayerai d'y prendre qlq cliches et si possible des videos.
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Si c'atait il ya trois mois j'aurais pu y aller et prendre tout plein de photos. Quelle dommmage madame Chonvier ? trois mois pr?s, c'est ballot.
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Voici une petite interview qui parle du GTforce:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/doc ... 5/logi.htm

comme le japonais et moi ne font pas un , voici la traduction en anglais faite par altavista:
GT FORCE Pro
December sale schedule

Standard price: 19,800 Yen

In order to enjoy "the グランツーリスモ" series fully, as for the controller of steering wheel type the peripheral device which cannot miss. It hits against the previous production, "Gran Turismo 3 A-spec (below, GT3)" when selling "GT FORCE" is sold from ロジクール, the shipment where in just the country exceeds 30 ten thousand units is achieved.

The "GT FORCE", "グランツーリスモ 4 (below, GT4)" adjusting to development, furthermore evolution. It is announced as "GT FORCE Pro". As for the same product ever since E3 which in May is held in Los Angeles, "GT4" was done with the various scenes which フィチャー are done the exhibition and demonstration together, just even the equipment ", GT4" and one body be sure to be able to say. Aiming toward the feeling which is closer, to actual car such as the steering wheel which 900 degree /2 rotary half is done at including the fourth feedback performance due to high power electric motor loading, approximately 2 times "GT FORCE" ratio, you inferred story to Fred Swan of the American Logitech marketing director it was developed concerning the details of the development "of GT FORCE Pro".



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GameWatch: Concerning "GT FORCE Pro", past you can introduce the difference with "GT FORCE" on the center?

Fred Swan: "GT FORCE Pro" real is the up-to-date steering wheel which can experience racing feeling. The fourth feedback system is the function which is offered to for "GT FORCE" empty place t Shaun of the product until recently, but this time 900 degrees, in other words 2 rotary half those where the steering wheel function which turns is adopted are the leader in addition to the power rise. As mechanism the real impression is pursued in regard to the shaft and the bearing part, or in actual car the ちthe product making is done. In addition, in order to put out the precision of the steering wheel, the sensor part could be applied to optical system. Appearance, when grasping by covering the whole steering wheel with rubber mold, have tried to utilize the grip impression.

Furthermore, cheap surely like the toy does not come out, the logograph of GT was acquired the sea urchin, with the center part as a metal pitch. "The GT FORCE Pro" empty also the shift gear which is adopted, develops the design of the actual car in the origin. Improvement is added in comparison with those of the time before e.g., and it enlarges also the accelerator and the brake pedal. Depressing, it should have received it is understood, but strengthening the spring, you depress and the especially brake from the impression has reached the point where it is transmitted. Also from the part of the clamp increasing strength, try to be able to lock firmly in the table and the like.

In addition it is the point which changes until recently from the product, but formula 1 and the like it corresponds to the other racing game because, form changed, but as for paddle shift it is left. In addition, because it corresponds to the various place t Shaun's game, setting and the like of the button it arranged in the shape which is close to the layout of the place t Shaun's controller. Of course, past to past game everything which corresponds "GT FORCE" is supported.


Fred Swan of American Logitech marketing director
GameWatch: At the time of product development, you think that there was a joint job of ポリフォニーデジタル which is the development cause "of GT4". Please teach the point which becomes details and an important point of development.

Fred Swan: At the stage where "GT3" of the previous production is sold, from ポリフォニーデジタル it had received story with cooperation development of the "following product". Of course from our company, from know-how and idea, and ポリフォニーデジタル in regard to the steering wheel which is developed so far development advanced in the form which receives the explanation of the game contents "of GT4". Especially, from ポリフォニー side "you adopted 900 degree /2 rotary half absolutely and" with there was request, this was difficult topic, but it was possible to achieve. It is simple to hear demand, but it meaning that it is difficult to actualize that, (laughing), also the achievement impression is one tide.

GameWatch: Concerning "the グランツーリスモ" series certainly, ポリフォニーデジタル, pulling, the image of crystal of prejudice of the Yamanouchi one model person is strong. Especially, as for demand from ポリフォニー side it seeks the real impression, you think in the point that that it was harsh, but real while pursuing, you must think either the cost aspect. At this point in time, it probably is how to be solved?

Fred Swan: Most Logitech (ロジクール) above the brand has been attached, concerning whatever product, the product of high quality must be made with the high performance, as for the thought there is always a mind. On that "the product of such quality, cannot be made with about this cost target vis-a-vis the engineer? "With it is the case that it tries throwing.

In the small point, the especially user first touches, some part of the product becomes an important point, whether somewhere () the difference with the competitive product is judged, ascertaining the point such as that, the part over there makes those which are done properly without cutting. Speaking conversely, it is the case that it actualizes cost cutting with effort of the engineer concerning the part which is not visible. For example the part which cannot transfer ポリフォニー side with appearance, the curved surface which hits against the spoke surface part of the steering wheel. This with plane surface being useless, is the case that we want the curved surface like the actual car. While with with the notion that where you say, adopting that curved surface, in order for baseplate arrangement of reverse side to be possible low at cost, it is the case that the engineer endeavors. Because the happiness, our company makes also the other product many, also cost decrease with total actualizes to supply the part from the place such as that.

Usually, it meaning that cost is very high, it does, the ball bearing for the car, but this by the fact that the engineer of our company from first designs, made the efficiency actualize which it corresponds to cost.

GameWatch: Don't you think? in other words it is not to be the case that it diverts the part of the actual car that way?

Fred Swan: There are no times when that part is used in the car, but it means as the actual car throwing the part which almost passes the process of the same development and production because of this product.

GameWatch: It is similar in regard to the brake pedal and the like of the front coming out?

Fred Swan: It is. It is not the case that this utilizes the part of the car that way. With the notion that where, passing in the same thought, as the actual car the similar component is made, it does development. It is the product which the actual car in the same way is used long because and, you depress the especially brake and the like strongly, strength and the like you insert in consideration, do not spare especially cost in such part and are.

GameWatch: From the development stage "of GT FORCE Pro", ポリフォニーデジタル participated even in the test of prototype, it is probably will be?

Fred Swan: Of course many degrees tested prototype. The insulator て also you have tried whether Japan it smells from this. The test over again, many degrees added improvement from trial manufacture level. In addition, as for this it is distinctiveness forcing thing with you think, but it is in the midst of developing from rather quick stage, because it could borrow "GT4", it was in time also you can call the development of the hardware.

GameWatch: At each time there is E3, ECTS, and Tokyo game Shaw and an opportunity, you tried "GT4" and "GT FORCE Pro". As for the fourth feedback function, former ratio 2 time, like especially gland canyon course the not yet pavement in the road surface, there are times when in the player of the adult like me you are moved by very harsh weight. When the small child plays and the like, how it should have done, probably will be?

Fred Swan: Actually, there is a product itself expensive (standard price: Because 19,800 Yen) is, you think that it is not kind of something which can buy the child of the elementary school student with ease. With the product which has the premiere impression, the main target has supposed above the high school student.

But, because of the user layer which you feel that fourth feedback is too strong, we had decided to prepare the function which makes fourth weak on hard side. Actually, "GT4" in order to pursue the ultimate real impression, seems that is also method of thinking of adjusting the strength of fourth model characteristic. The possibility is low, from the point such as that, software of making fourth weak uniformly with "GT4", probably will be. Simply, as our company, furthermore it is small, when the child is played, with that fourth because it has gotten wise be too strong thing, loading the macrofacility which pushes several buttons simultaneously, it gives the function which approximately makes fourth 35% decrease.

Actually, the occasion where demonstration was done with denouement of the Fuji speedway, as used "GT4" and "GT FORCE Pro" one for child, also you prepared 2 seats. Don't you think? so, the small child quickly the beam painfully so is. The steering wheel trembles even with straight. As for the corner, pulling the steering wheel with the both hands, the feeling that finally bends. So, when it makes fourth weak in the aforementioned command, such children, it was designed in such a way that it can put out the time which is done properly.

GameWatch: Sale was postponed concerning "GT4" main part, within year shipment of prologue edition being done was decided, but there are no times when the shipment schedule "of GT FORCE Pro" changes with this?

Fred Swan: Adjusting to because also the shipment of "GT4 prologue edition," it ships "GT FORCE Pro", there are no times when shipment schedule changes in such sense. In addition, because it is correspondence possible even in the game of the ステライングホイール correspondence which under present conditions "GT Force" can be utilized, that very, from real the steering wheel was born in the your other customer such as that, you will be able to think and probably will be.

GameWatch: Concerning the number of shipment schedules how probably will be?

Fred Swan: As for the end of year trade war because it is the time when the game-related product hard it is sold, you think that you can anticipate the result largely, by according to schedule shipping in that time. In addition don't you think?, because also future "GT4" main part formally is the case that release it is done, also the viewpoint that is possible, big sale chance 2 times is born for us.

GameWatch: Is sale of the bundled package and the like "of GT4" planned?

Fred Swan: First sale of as a single unit has been decided as ロジクール. Of course, there is also a possibility of bundled edition, but though as for this with the SONY computer entertainment circumstance, me it is not possible to do empty some announcement. Simply, it is about of the various promotions which include also bundled edition, in each country are in circumstance of that country are thought.

GameWatch: To being not to be the story which is limited "GT FORCE Pro", it does, but Europe and America where the space comes off sufficiently vis-a-vis Japan where for example the house is narrow, such in the housing situation which differs, is the influence which the difference of living environment causes to the product design probably certain?

Fred Swan: Consideration has done of course. Actually, if you say in regard to "GT FORCE Pro" in regard to the center section of the console being particularly not to become large, it does. Especially this time the fourth feedback etc. which 900 degree /2 rotary half, and had become strong, it was hard the element which becomes large. Concerning this, it seems that was thought that there is also a Yamanouchi one model person it is helpless, but really being to be settled rather in the compact, being surprised, greatly it is the leprosy. Of course, there is also an additional space of the shift gear and the like, but you think that even then it was settled in the compact. If past with the one which is satisfied "GT FORCE", agreeing upon, you can purchase, probably will be.

Conversely pedal side, those which were made until recently in the compact were enlarged. This is because a demand that is strong, from the user, compared to we are wanted those which will be been secure. It withstands also forcing operation, also the spring is strengthened. That much, one it turned the base and enlarged.

GameWatch: Please teach the number of shipments with world wide of the front model.

Fred Swan: Now we cannot speak the number at product units here, but in all the steering wheel of fourth feedback type, about 130 ten thousand units it is shipping.

GameWatch: The number of shipment "of GT FORCE Pro" target how probably will be?

Fred Swan: Higher end it became the product, but think several 100000 units that we would like to ship. This not only as the hardware, is important what kind of corresponding software is developed. Now it just announced formally because, in the future how it keeps selling in each country, you think that by the fact that it keeps examining, furthermore the concrete prospect is visible.

GameWatch: For PC of the corporation, several wireless corresponding product which used the 2.4GHz band is prepared in the product. Such wireless technology is there a plan which is adopted for the steering wheel?

Fred Swan: Because for the consumer which begins place t Shaun 2 the product utilization at the parlour is prerequisite, as for cordless conversion there is always a mind. Actually, there is no technical problem. Considering the cost aspect and needs etc., the stage which it examines whether or not in the future you adopt, it does to speak distantly.
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Au secours ! C'est pas de l'anglais ?a !!!!!
Je sais pas exactement de quelle langue il s'agit mais ?a vient pas de la Terre !


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sankami a écrit :Au secours ! C'est pas de l'anglais ?a !!!!!
Je sais pas exactement de quelle langue il s'agit mais ?a vient pas de la Terre !


MON DIEU ! TU ES EN RELATION AVEC LE SCRAMEUSTACHE !!!!
Ah vrai que c'est affreux! Quelle horreur. M?me si c'est vachement interresant, je n'ai pas trop envie de lire.
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